Poll Declares Majority of Zuccotti Park OWS Would Vote for Obama

(PRISON PLANET)   It has been difficult to pin down the OWS crowd politically. Beyond their signs and encounters with the corporate media calling for taxing the rich and complaining about student loans and a lack of employment opportunities, the OWS as a whole has remains politically amorphous.

Douglas Schoen, a Democrat Party pollster, recently sent a polling firm into Zuccotti Park and attempted a somewhat professional polling of the OWS crowd.

According to the results of Schoen’s poll, most participants do not identify with a political party (33%). A slightly smaller number (32%) identify themselves as Democrats. 6% openly call themselves socialists while an identical number claim to be Libertarians. Sadly, only 1% identify themselves as Constitutionalists.

A full 74% of those who claim they voted in the last election (56%) say they voted for Obama.

48% say they would vote to re-elect Obama, while only 25% say no and 27% indicate they are unsure.

Remarkably, a full 44% say they approve of the job of Obama’s doing.

If Schoen’s poll can be believed (we have to keep in mind he is a Democrat operative), the OWS crowd appears to be seriously ignorant of the fact Obama was elected with an influx of Wall Street money – specifically, Goldman Sachs money. In fact, this time around, Obama has received more political contributions from Wall Street and the financial sector than any of his Republican rivals.

Obama’s administration is populated with the sort of people the OWS crowd claims to oppose – individuals representing the banking and financial sectors, the Federal Reserve, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group. In other words, the globalists who have shipped American jobs overseas to slave labor gulags and have saddled a shrinking middle class with an unpayable debt burden.

If the OWS crowd continues to remain ignorant of basic political and economic facts, we can expect the movement to degenerate into another love fest for the globalist teleprompter reader Obama come the 2012 election. The mere fact nearly 50 percent approve of what Obama is doing – continuing the globalist agenda of his predecessor – is evidence enough that the OWS is irrelevant and indeed represents a dangerous political trend.

Like the Tea Party, the movement is likely to be compromised by the establishment and used to reaffirm the political duopoly owned by the bankers. And like the Tea Party, the reason for the sell-out can be attributed to political naivete and an inability to grasp the political reality.

If cold weather disperses the OWS crowd later this month or early next month, it is likely the movement will become atomized and disconnected. As individuals believing in a fairy tale version of reality – only partly understood in a generalized distrust of banks and Wall Street – we can expect many OWS supporters to follow the call of the bankster Democrats come next November.


Nearly a Third of ‘Occupy’ Protesters Advocate Violence

(PRISON PLANET)   Research conducted by polling firm PSB reveals that almost one third of the Occupy Wall Street protesters support using violence to enforce their ideas, which is somewhat disconcerting given the fact that many of the demonstrators also support concentrating that force into the hands of government to oversee a program of radical wealth redistribution at gunpoint.

“On Oct. 10 and 11, Arielle Alter Confino, a senior researcher at my polling firm, interviewed nearly 200 protesters in New York’s Zuccotti Park. Our findings probably represent the first systematic random sample of Occupy Wall Street opinion,” writes pollster Douglas Schoen in the Wall Street Journal today.

The interviews with the demonstrators revealed that “nearly one-third (31%) would support violence to advance their agenda.”

In their hit song “Revolution,” which is being trumpeted by the Obama-supporting, George Soros-funded MoveOn.org group as an anthem for the demonstrators, the Beatles sung about the need for people to come together to change the world, but they made it very clear that violence and Communist rhetoric, which has unfortunately been adopted by many ‘Occupy’ adherents, was not the way to do it.

However, as we have witnessed, this violence would not be used to bring in some ‘glorious’ grass roots revolution, the revolt of the “99 percent,” as the demonstrators have characterized themselves, it would in all likelihood be entrusted to government who would then abuse such power to use even more heavy-handed force than they already do.

In the interview below, Adam Kokesh follows the “solution” many ‘Occupy’ protesters are advocating to its logical conclusion, the government being empowered to use violence against the American people to enforce “the public good”.

The “public good” in this example, supported by the ‘Occupy’ protester interviewed, is an IRS agent putting a gun to the head of a citizen to enforce payment of taxes.

The tone of this interview is very similar to Kokesh’s earlier videos which betrayed the fact that many of the OWS protesters would support giving the government totalitarian power to use force against those who disagree with using top-down socialism to redistribute wealth. PSB’s figures show that almost half of the ‘Occupy’ demonstrators will vote for Obama in 2012.

Given the fact that these tyrannical, statist and overwhelmingly hypocritical “solutions,” which are embraced by a sizeable chunk of the ‘Occupy’ demonstrators, are now coming to dominate the sentiment of the protesters with increasing regularity, it’s unsurprising that the likes of Wall Street-puppet Barack Obama, Ben Bernanke, and now the government of North Korea, which enjoys putting dissidents in concentration camps, have thrown their weight behind the ‘Occupy’ movement.

While there are undoubtedly many thousands of protesters who do not share these beliefs, the obvious subversion of the ‘Occupy’ movement to the point where it has now become a rallying cry to end capitalism completely and replace it with something much worse – top down, violently enforced socialism – is a frightening prospect given that it has now elicited the support of the President of the United States along with numerous prominent members of his administration.


Bloomberg: First Amendment Doesn’t Apply To Wall St Protesters’ Tents

(PRISON PLANET)   After failing to remove occupy Wall Street protesters last week in order to close Zuccotti Park and “carry out cleaning”, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has issued another thinly veiled warning to those still present and protesting.

During a Press conference last night, Bloomberg asserted that “the Constitution doesn’t protect tents — it protects speech and assembly.”

“I’m 100 percent in favor of protecting — 1,000 percent in favor — of giving people rights to say things,” Bloomberg told those in attendance.

“…but also we have to protect those who don’t want to say anything,” he added.

“There are places where I think it’s appropriate to express yourself and then there are other places that are appropriate to set up a tent city, and they don’t necessarily have to be one and the same.” The mayor told reporters.

Earlier in the month, Bloomberg told the Wall Street Journal that protests would be allowed to continue indefinitely as long as participants obeyed the law.

“The bottom line is – people want to express themselves. And as long as they obey the laws, we’ll allow them to,” he said. “If they break the laws, then, we’re going to do what we’re supposed to do: enforce the laws.”

Despite this, Bloomberg has criticized the protesters, accusing them of “trying to destroy the jobs of working people.”

“Everyone’s got a thing they want to protest, some of which is not realistic.” Bloomberg said on his weekly radio address.

“And if you focus for example on driving the banks out of New York City, you know those are our jobs … You can’t have it both ways: If you want jobs you got to assist companies and give them confidence to go and hire people.”

“The protests that are trying to destroy the jobs of working people is unproductive,” he said.

“We are trying to deal with this is a way that doesn’t make the problem grow and protects everybody’s rights… we’re trying to let this — not ‘play out,’ that isn’t quite the right word, but let them express themselves.” Bloomberg added.

When asked by protesters if they could have a sound permit to use amplified devices in and around Zucotti Park, he dismissed the notion out of hand:

In a radio interview earlier this week, Bloomberg said that it was pressure from “many elected officials” that prevented Brookfield Properties from removing Occupy Wall Street protesters to clean Zuccotti Park:

According to a Quinnipiac Poll released yesterday, two out of every three New Yorkers support the protests. Even higher numbers, 72 percent to 24 percent, said law-abiding demonstrators should be able to remain in the area as long as they want.


Occupy Wall Street: Who Wants to Hijack the Movement?

(WEBSTER TARPLEY)   Media spokesmen for the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations claimed that their operation is totally transparent, with everything subject to democratic discussion in a general assembly of all comers. But eyewitness reports from experienced observers on the ground in lower Manhattan indicate a much different reality behind these bland assurances. Forces appeared to be at work behind the scenes to manipulate the protest movement into a posture of supporting the presidential candidacy of Wall Street puppet Obama.

Eyewitness observers suggest that the deliberations of the general assembly are largely a diversion, and that real power is being increasingly concentrated in the hands of about 20 mysterious and anonymous individuals who appear to make up a kind of covert steering committee that pulls the strings on the general assembly, or else goes around it completely. The members of this cadre of mysterious operatives are not as young as the average demonstrator. The secret leadership is made up of people ranging in age from 25 to over 40, with the older ones occupying the key posts. Many of them appear to be active duty or recently retired military.

A Covert Steering Committee Behind the Scenes?

Attempts to ascertain the names of the behind-the-scenes leaders are met with stonewalling. When pressed to reveal her identity, one female leader gave her name as “Mary MIA.” Another gave his name as “Tony POW.”

If the leaders of OWS want to be transparent, let them make public at least the full names of the people who are actually running the show. No one wants to join a movement with anonymous leaders.

Observers have noticed that almost all of the likely members of the secret steering committee disappear from view between 4 and 6 p.m. each afternoon, right before the opening of the general assembly, for which they then re-appear. It is assumed that they are attending a closed-door meeting, but the general assembly is not officially informed of this fact.

Strange Bedfellows

Two individuals who appear to belong to the higher levels of the pecking order in Zuccotti Park are pictured above. The one on the left calls himself “Brendan.” When newspaper correspondents and other media representatives arrive, he is often the one who handles relations with them. “Brendan” looks old enough to be the father of many of the demonstrators.

The person pictured above on the right is a frequent speaker in the general assembly. He also has a role in relations with the press. According to one protester, he may have connections to the US military, but this has not been confirmed. Is his do-rag or bandana a fashion statement, or something else?

Who are these people? Who appointed them? To whom are they accountable?

Who Invited Michael Moore?

The general assembly is supposed to approve all major decisions. In reality, it appears to be occupied with endless deliberations about trivia while the really big decisions are being made someplace else. A case in point are the invitations which have obviously been extended to a whole series of discredited left liberal figures, many of them deeply implicated in inflicting the Obama presidency and continued Wall Street rule on our nation. Michael Moore, Naomi Klein, Mike Myers, and left-IMF ideologue Joseph Stiglitz have all appeared, and a visit by Noam Chomsky, a devoted supporter of the Bush theory of terrorism, is reportedly in the works. Eyewitnesses have reported that most demonstrators were not happy with the presence of the millionaire Michael Moore, who was using the demonstrations as props for his usual routine of self-promotion. But these objections carried no weight. Regular participants in the general assembly report that they were never consulted about whether to invite these left liberals. It is therefore a good guess that the invitations were actually issued by the secret steering committee. The general idea is once again to reduce the protest movement to a mere auxiliary in the effort to get Obama reelected.

The Consensus Straitjacket

The members of the secret steering committee have taken a leading role in imposing the unwieldy and time-consuming formalism of always reaching a consensus in the general assembly, meaning that any significant opposition can block the implementation of urgent actions. A simple up or down majority vote is not enough. (The last governing assembly of any major nation to give each member a veto over the actions of the whole body was the aristocratic Polish Diet of the 18th century, which was so dysfunctional that it led to Poland being obliterated from the map of Europe – not an example to be imitated.)

The consensus method provides immense comfort to the predatory speculators of Wall Street, since it virtually guarantees that no potent and controversial strategy to break the power of finance capital can emerge. Indeed, it guarantees that absolutely nothing will be able to emerge in an emergency after a rapid turn in the overall situation. The US Congress is paralyzed by a minority, but the consensus rules of the general assembly mean that it can be paralyzed by a tiny clique bent on sabotage. In the background, the covert steering committee is busy creating a series of faits accomplis.

The deliberations of the general assembly are one big filibuster. On October 4, much of the session was taken up with an agonized discussion of whether to buy or knit and sew sleeping bags as the nights became colder. Right-wing commentators hostile to the protests had a field day using this grotesque scene to mock the entire movement.

Those who run the General assembly sessions are known as facilitators. The relation of these facilitators to the secret steering committee is being investigated.

The OWS Declaration: Not One Concrete Demand for Americans

While the General assembly is occupied with questions like what to order for lunch as part of the shipments of free food that mysteriously appear at the demonstration site, the vital issue of program is left to a subcommittee. On October 5, the Olbermann evening news featured a reading of the Occupy Wall Street Declaration, written by protesters Ryan Hoffman and Lex Rendon. This document does not offer an analysis of the current economic crisis. Rather, it represents a laundry list of complaints, many valid and some spurious. Most important, this document contains not one concrete demand, measure, or program point on which the protesters are willing to pledge that they will be fighting for the interests of the American people. In that sense, it is a document of moral and intellectual impotence. It whines and complains, but it will do nothing to combat the widespread suspicion of the OWS movement felt in many quarters because of the Soros endorsement.

Economic demands are absolutely vital. The movement needs to offer specific solutions for the grave abuses and economic tragedies which are plaguing working people. These demands acquire a material power as they gain mass support. To get support from the inner-city ghetto, from the farm belt, from women, from labor, from the elderly, their vital concerns must be directly addressed. These groups absolutely do not need more analysis telling them how bad things are. They already know that. They need to see a social force which is ready to take leadership in accomplishing radical reforms -or else the revolution, as the case may be.

Student Loan Amnesty Now Paid for by 1% Wall Street Sales Tax

One obvious demand which needs to be included is an immediate amnesty or cancellation of all outstanding student loans. The zombie banks which have been bailed out by the United States government can and should eat their part of the $1 trillion which will have to be written off. The loans guaranteed by the government can be offset by new tax income from a 1% Wall Street sales tax on all financial turnover, including stocks, bonds, and derivatives. Estimates of the additional revenue from a Wall Street sales tax of this type start in the hundreds of billions of dollars and go into the trillions. The proceeds could be split between the federal government and the states, for the purposes of maintaining the social safety net and vital public services. Ordinary people pay sales tax, while bankers pay nothing. One bright spot in the demonstrations has been the presence of the nurses’ union, which has been militantly advocating just such a Tobin tax or financial transactions tax. Student loan amnesty now paid for by a 1% Wall St sales tax is a demand which could blow the lid off US politics once and for all.

Economic program is a science. It requires the mastery of many fields. Serious, intelligent people need to put their gifts to work mastering the science of economic program as part of their social responsibility to the American people.

The Indignados of Madrid: Europe’s Biggest Failures

According to reliable reports, the consensus method was imposed via the steering committee preparing for the demonstrations during the summer months. Individuals claiming to be students from Spain and Greece arrived and joined the steering committee, where they advocated the crippling consensus method. They pointed to the general assemblies held by the indignados of Madrid, a movement of youthful protesters concerned about austerity measures, youth unemployment, the excessive power of bankers, and economic injustice. But, even compared with Tunis, Cairo, Athens, and Reykjavík, the Madrid indignados must be judged as the biggest failure of them all, because of their total inability to oust the “socialist” IMF agent Zapatero, the enforcer of genocidal austerity demanded by the banks, or to block any of the austerity cuts. The indignados had no positive impact whatsoever on Spanish politics. Why imitate failure? This is the side of the current protests which Wall Street predator George Soros was happy to endorse this week.

A New International Otpor?

Observers are reminded of Otpor, the organization created by the CIA and the National Endowment for Democracy for the purpose of overthrowing the Serbian strongman Milosevic in 2000. After that color revolution had occurred, the leaders of Otpor turned their experience into an immensely lucrative consultancy under which they were assigned by the CIA and the NED to Ukraine, Georgia, Lebanon, and Egypt to train the operatives that would overthrow national leaders which the US wanted to get rid of. Have indignados veterans opened a new counterinsurgency franchise of this kind?

The “Theoretician”: Anarchist Peter Gelderloos, Fetishist of Consensus

Last night Occupy Wall Street spokesman Matthew Swaye appeared on the Ed Show of MSNBC, and announced that the main theoretician of the consensus straitjacket is anarchist Peter Gelderloos, author of the book Consensus. Swaye praised the “intricate process” of the general assemblies, where votes are expressed by thumbs up or thumbs down. Gelderloos, who is almost unknown in the United States, was arrested in Spain in 2007, and during his trial became a sort of minor celebrity in certain circles there. This may explain why the indignados leaders were indoctrinated with his belief structure. Gelderloos’s system is a Procrustean bed on which not many in their right mind will be willing to lie down.

Television appearances by protesters Kelly Heresy, Tyler Combelic, Ryan Hoffman, Lex Rendon and Swaye in recent days all have one common characteristic – their absolute inability to formulate a single demand or program which would speak to the urgent needs of the broader American public. Instead, many of them used the few precious minutes they had extolling the virtues of the imbecilic consensus model as the basis for some future Utopia. Hard-pressed working people do not have time for these pipe dreams. American working people urgently need help in finding a job, in blocking a foreclosure, in obtaining health care, and in getting out from under the crushing burden of student loans. Who chose these spokespersons?

So far, the current Wall Street protests have offered these embattled Americans virtually nothing but an unfulfilled promissory note.

Sam Seder, a former broadcaster for the failed Air America network and Obama backer, has argued that the movement should never come up with a program of concrete demands. This is the choice that would suit Obama. Unless and until the protest movement tells the American people what it is willing to fight for on their behalf, it risks becoming a mere collection of roustabouts for the Obama reelection campaign.

The stakes are much too high to let this happen. If this movement fails, fascism may be much closer than many people think. It must succeed, and to succeed it immediately requires a series of intelligible goals.


US State Department Funded Agitator in DC Advising Occupy Wall Street Crowds

(THE INTEL HUB)   Wired Magazine has just reported that Ahmed Maher, of the infamous US-funded Egyptian “April 6″ revolutionary movement that helped the US topple Egypt’s government early in 2011, is now back in Washington D.C. “advising” Occupy Wall Street protesters, face-to-face in McPherson Square.

The article claims that protesters throughout the US movement have cited (ironically) protests in Cairo as their “inspiration” to rise up against corruption in their government and financial institutions.

From the US to Serbia, to Egypt and back again, US State Department-funded, trained, and equipped agitator Ahmed Maher poses at the scene of “Occupy D.C.” Ironically, Americans claim Maher and his “April 6″ movement have inspired them to rise up against their corrupt government, unaware that his movement was insidiously created by the US government. Photo: courtesy Ahmed Maher, Spencer Ackerman


While the Wired piece doesn’t explain where Maher honed his “revolutionary” skills, it does mention vaguely that he was in D.C. on invitation from an unnamed university professor and that next he would be headed toNew York City to “advise” protesters there.

This of course isn’t Maher’s first trip to the United States. Years before the Egyptian revolution, the United States was quietly preparing a global army of youth cannon fodder to fuel region wide conflagrations throughout the world, both politically and literally.

Maher’s April 6 organization had been in New York City for the US State Department’s first “Alliance for Youth Movements Summit” in 2008.

His group then traveled to Serbia to train under the US-funded “CANVAS” organization before returning to Egypt in 2010 with US International Crisis Group (ICG) operative Mohamed ElBaradei to spend the next year building up for the “Arab Spring.”

Considering the depth of planning and preparation by the US State Department, with the cooperation of other US agencies, departments, and corporations, including the mainstream-media, we can now see the full measure of collective duplicity throughout America’s establishment.

As many may remember, the United States acted with total surprise as the “Arab Spring” unfolded, despite having engineered it years in advance and having financial and tactical contacts with all the leading opposition groups.

In Egypt’s case, Mohamed ElBaradei and his “April 6″ organization led by Maher, were in direct contact with some of America’s most influential power brokers, including Zbigniew Brzezinski and George Soros and to a lesser extent, Samuel Berger, Kenneth Adelman (Freedom House), General Wesley Clark, and Richard Armitage via the ICG.

Additionally, ICG includes Shimon Peres, President of Israel, as well as Stanley Fischer, governor of the Bank of Israel. Israel too feigned great displeasure, uncertainty, and surprise over a regional gambitthey most certainly played a role in.

Maher’s return to the United States may or may not hold any significance depending on just how much “advising” he does and the intended duration of his stay. It also depends largely on whether or not the corporate-media leaps on the story and sensationalizes it.

However it is rather alarming that Americans who claim Maher and his April 6 Movement as an inspiration for their bid to rein in a corrupt government and financial system, are ignorant of the fact that Maher and his movement are both products of that very corrupt, insidious system.

For those wondering where the US-funded revolution led Maher’s fellow Egyptians, the answer is a military dictatorship and Maher’s American sponsors parading through Cairo preparing to ransack it with “economic liberalization” and the spread of Wall Street-London economic hegemony over Egypt.

While some may consider that a failure – in reality that is exactly what the US State Department and the corporate-financier interests that fund and steer US policy had intended all along. Maher, for his part, may have been naive enough to believe he was receiving help to usher in real change for Egypt, and maybe not.

If Egypt should inspire any American participating in the Occupy Wall Street movement, it should be because it serves as a reminder to always follow the money, identify the associations between groups and personalities, name names, use logic and reason ahead of emotions, and understand exactly what your goals are and where they will lead you.

More specifically, these goals must be pragmatic more than anything else. A very specific program with a timetable and enumerated means to carry it out would be a start.

However, boycotting and replacing Wall Street while using local and state government to reclaim our sovereignty from the overreaching tyranny of the Federal government would be far more effective than simply congregating in the streets and hoping for a completely compromised system, with the audacity to sow revolution across the globe, to somehow be hoist with its own petard.

Egypt’s fate may not be far off from that of America. There is a very real threat of a military dictatorship riding in under false “heroic” pretenses in the US as well. Street mobs are this government’s specialty, no one understands them better, and no one on earth is better prepared to deal with them – especially mobs that are disorganized, aimless, and incapable of discerning that those walking amongst them, inspiring them, even leading them, are literally agents of the very system they seek to reform.

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Heavy Handed Mods In The Occupy Wall Street Global Revolution Livestream Chat Rule With Iron Fist

(THE INTEL HUB)   As the Occupy Wall Street Protests continue to gain ground, a startling new trend has emerged within the Global Revolution Livestream chat.

This livestream page has over 250,000 Facebook likes and is the main place most people go to find out up to date information on what is happening at the Occupy protests.

During the first 10 days of the protests the chat was full of thousands of people will different ideas and many many who wanted to end the Federal Reserve and expose the REAL powers that control this country.

Sometime after the first 10 days of the protest, the moderators of the chat decided to crack down on all political speech that doesn’t demand the end of capitalism and blame ALL our problems on the puppet corporations.

We are literally talking about banning anyone who says end the fed or even brings up the private banking cartel that openly runs this country. These heavy handed moderators, pretending to represent the 99%, are actually acting more like the 1%, telling the chatters that, “we just don’t question the moderators here.”

These mods then go on to talk about how political speech is banned in the chatroom as the livestream plays clips of political leftist and Current TV(owned by Al Gore) host Keith Olbermann.

Chatters who want to speak about the real powers that rule this country are then told to go to some obscure chatroom with less than a dozen people in it compared to the thousands who frequent the main Global Revolution livestream.

Who are these mods and who decided to ban all talk about the private federal reserve? This is a very serious deveolopment that threatens to undermine the entire movement.

How are we supposed to believe these protests represent the 99% when only those on the extreme left are able to push their views in the livestream that started the whole occupy protests?

As long as chatters promote ending captalism and blaming EVERYTHING on the corporations, their political speech is acceptable. Only when chatters speak about real issues is the rule about no politics in the chat brought up.

I have personally witnessed dozens if not hundreds of people being banned by these freedom hating moderators. If you have been banned in the chat for simply speaking your mind about the private federal reserve please comment on this article and let us know about your experience with the mods who cannot be challenged in the supposed Global Revolution Livestream.

Note: I am obviously NOT talking about banning people for trolling and disrupting the movement. It is important that there are mods who do ban trolls but rather then do this, these moderators have shown their absolute support for the Federal Reserve by pretending that anyone that talks about it is a troll.


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